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  We’re getting out.

  by MissDaSilva in

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  been in for 20 plus years but decided to get out with my son.

  can’t do this anymore.

  never seen such hypocrisy and clickyness anywhere else.

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  Big Dog

  Always gratifying to see another mind freed from their sick control. Run like you stole something and never look back.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Some of my family are extremely hardcore when it comes to the Tower. I can imagine them having a complete break with reality. They would be like the crazy cat lady petting the cat that has been dead ten years going on about how they are just napping.

  I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall in their homes if things really went south to hear just how they would work themselves through the cognitive dissonance and realign their reality.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
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  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Big Dog

  Some of my family are extremely hardcore when it comes to the Tower. I can imagine them having a complete break with reality. They would be like the crazy cat lady petting the cat that has been dead ten years going on about how they are just napping.

  I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall in their homes if things really went south to hear just how they would work themselves through the cognitive dissonance and realign their reality.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  I agree that it will probably be a slow death but after years of watching films where someone wakes up and the unthinkable has happened, I really tried to imagine that scene with faithful dubs. Waking up to find the Tower just gone.

  Rage, denial, grief, etc. Just wondering what the responses would be.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Big Dog

  What if the truly unthinkable happened and the Tower went down? Perhaps the IRS swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors? Or the GB took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years? Or any other really nice end you can come up with? I mean, HQ goes dark, no one is home giving orders, the money stops, the website is down, etc.

  What would the truly devout do? Suicide? Try to organize again, which would be difficult on any meaningful level. Become atheists? Go to mainstream churches? I was really trying to come up with a pie chart of what I thought the breakdown would be if the Tower closed suddenly with no warning and no chance of starting back up again.
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  If 1914 gets tossed

  by Leathercrop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it feels like the change in reporting of hours becomes a fundamentally bigger deal every day.

  the weight and importance placed on quantity was enormous, and now it's just gone.

  even tho most witnesses really didn't keep "accurate" records so to speak hehehe.... this could very well be a precursor to even bigger doctrinal changes, like 1914. damn, would would happen then?.

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  Big Dog

  Tonus outlined it nicely. It's how pretty much every organization handles its back peddling and change of doctrine. The JW's are late to the game, the RC church has been doing it for centuries. Take Joan of Arc for example. Oh, she's possessed, she wears men's clothing, she fights. Burn her at the stake. Wait, er, perhaps not, actually she was a little bit of alright. Scratch all that, she's now a saint of the church. The RC church has its own version of "new light" as do most other denominations that have been proven wrong on evolution or young earth theory or fill in the blank.

  You go away from it for a while, then come back to it with a mea culpa and all humility and of course God wasn't the problem, it was us sinful, foul, bone headed creations that once again got it wrong. Too bad, so sad, now let's carry on and hope we don't fall into such error again.

  1914, it's just a number to be explained away.
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  Hindsight is 20/20 and Bizarre at Best

  by jwundubbed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was a kid, living in quakertown pa, i tried to play with the kids in the neighborhood.

  it was a new and small neighborhood with just a handful of kids, but they were all in my generation.

  one day the boy across the street comes up to me and two girls from down the street and tells us he just got a ouija board and we should all play.

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  Yes, I can remember something along those lines when I told other children that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. The looks on their faces were really something when I dropped that one on them. I quickly found out that pretty much no one except JW's believes that particular doctrine. It was an early lesson for me to check things out before I opened my mouth. It also was a very early lesson about how far from mainstream the Borg was.
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  What do you think?

  by Tahoe in

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  Big Dog

  I would love to live long enough to see the whole thing burn to the ground.
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  Just had a thought…

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

  …dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

  …i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

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  Big Dog

  @ Vidiot

  "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
  
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  "...The Most Important Day of the Year" Watchtower January,2024

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what a mockery that statement is to over 99% of their followers.

  there is nothing biblically that makes the jw memorial day important to anyone that does not partake.

  they still continue to say .

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  Big Dog

  When I described what went on at the JW memorial to a Catholic friend they completely freaked out. Once they asked some questions and understood what went on they said, that's like and anti communion. They basically reject Christ as they pass the bread and wine along without consuming any. They felt it was more akin to a Satanic ritual of rejection and denial of Jesus' offer.

  I had never thought of it that way and found that description more than a little apt.